Friday, September 3, 2010

Advice on learning how to play musical instruments

So, anons, I've finally moved to a peaceful place. Free of distractions. Now, I wish to learn to play the piano, the most manly instrument in the world.
Question is: Where should I start?
I noticed a lot of anons are piano players. Care to give advice to an aspiring player? Such as, what are some basic chords I should learn and some basic music theory? Links are the sh*t, man.
Pic related. It's the instrument in its natural habitat




scales major/minor chords
start with basic bach and then move up to more advanced stuff
how old is OP?

A harpist went to Lieh Tzu and said, "Lieh Tzu, I wish to play the harp so well that the birds themselves will join me in song."
Said Lieh Tzu to Random Chinese Guy #104, "Sit beneath the peach tree every day and play the harp."
Random Chinese Guy #104 did as Lieh Tzu said. Over the next few years, Random Chinese Guy #104 sat beneath the tree and let his fingers discover the notes of his harp.
By the end of the third year, the birds themselves landed upon his shoulders and sang with his music.
The story goes on to make a point, saying that some dude who went to music school tried to play for the birds, and they just flew away.
Hope that helps~

scales major/minor chords
start with basic bach and then move up to more advanced stuff
how old is OP?

I am 19. I appreciate this.
A harpist went to Lieh Tzu and said, "Lieh Tzu, I wish to play the harp so well that the birds themselves will join me in song."
Said Lieh Tzu to Random Chinese Guy #104, "Sit beneath the peach tree every day and play the harp."
Random Chinese Guy #104 did as Lieh Tzu said. Over the next few years, Random Chinese Guy #104 sat beneath the tree and let his fingers discover the notes of his harp.
By the end of the third year, the birds themselves landed upon his shoulders and sang with his music.
The story goes on to make a point, saying that some dude who went to music school tried to play for the birds, and they just flew away.
Hope that helps~

I understand EXACTLY what your saying. I attempted the same with the guitar, however, I became bored quickly not because of the content, but because I was trying to impress someone.
The piano creates beautiful music. I will dabble with blues, since I know some basic chords off hand already. Is this how you learned?
Thanks for the advice so far.

Anything else, guys? I'd appreciate anything you have to offer.

This is relevant to my interests.
expressingmyinterests

It really depends on what you want to learn. I'm classically trained, so I have been practicing scales, chords, arpeggios and Hanon since I was 5. Unfortunately, I can't play pop music or improvise well at all, despite terrific technique and wide repertoire. If you don't think that's a huge problem (and I don't, I LOVE playing classical) then practice scales in all 12 keys, do Hanon for 20 minutes every day and slowly learn classical pieces, and start with both hands, don't learn it one at a time.
If you want to learn pop music or jazz or blues though, your best bet is to listen, try and play, rewind, listen, try and play, rewind, listen, try and play over and over and over. I am serious. This is how kids learn to play jazz.
Hope that helped.

Play ragtime, it's all I do.

It really depends on what you want to learn. I'm classically trained, so I have been practicing scales, chords, arpeggios and Hanon since I was 5. Unfortunately, I can't play pop music or improvise well at all, despite terrific technique and wide repertoire. If you don't think that's a huge problem (and I don't, I LOVE playing classical) then practice scales in all 12 keys, do Hanon for 20 minutes every day and slowly learn classical pieces, and start with both hands, don't learn it one at a time.
If you want to learn pop music or jazz or blues though, your best bet is to listen, try and play, rewind, listen, try and play, rewind, listen, try and play over and over and over. I am serious. This is how kids learn to play jazz.
Hope that helped.

OP here. I'd love to learn waltz and jazz and be able to improvise. I'm glad there are many helpful people here.
I'll take that advice. I may make a piano thread tomorrow. See what happens.


OP here. I'd love to learn waltz and jazz and be able to improvise. I'm glad there are many helpful people here.
I'll take that advice. I may make a piano thread tomorrow. See what happens.

waltz is just a name for a song that's in 3/4 typically played as the last song of the evening.

Play ragtime, it's all I do.

F**k yes. Love that stuff. And swing? Pffft. The rhythm is just infectious. How did you learn to play?


F**k yes. Love that stuff. And swing? Pffft. The rhythm is just infectious. How did you learn to play?

My dad had a book full of Scott Joplin songs and since I know how to sight read I just sat down one summer and plowed through a few


waltz is just a name for a song that's in 3/4 typically played as the last song of the evening.

Oh. I didn't know that. Already learning stuff. Thank you for the clarification.

Start with scales and arpeggios and Clementi Sonatinas. After you've enough Clementi (at least full mastery of one sonatina), go on to Two-Part Bach inventions, rinse and repeat. Then Bach's C major three part invention. Then choose something Well-Tempered Clavier and a Mozart or Beethoven Sonata. By this point, you will have the foundations of good technique, and will be prepared to take on most piano music. However, this will only be the case if you stick to each step, and not move one until you've perfected each piece. Also, I recommend you get a teacher or at least read a book on piano technique to help you theoretically understand how to approach practicing. Gieseking's book in particular is quite good.
On top of this, I would recommend that along with these, you should play something you enjoy. It's hard to stick to an instrument if you spend all your time studying to improve technique and no time having fun.

sixth year classical and contemporary pianist here, just going to say some things i wish people had have said plainly to me.
1. learn to interpret the majors and minors (chords) across any scale. There's a music-theory to it that i won't explain right now.
2. try to learn to scale, thumb and cross pretty early
3. you'll probably want to start off exclusively in C, G, D, F
4. contrary to what everyone will tell you, reading music is NOT essential and neither is "starting off learning actual songs"
maybe more later

Start with scales and arpeggios and Clementi Sonatinas. After you've enough Clementi (at least full mastery of one sonatina), go on to Two-Part Bach inventions, rinse and repeat. Then Bach's C major three part invention. Then choose something Well-Tempered Clavier and a Mozart or Beethoven Sonata. By this point, you will have the foundations of good technique, and will be prepared to take on most piano music. However, this will only be the case if you stick to each step, and not move one until you've perfected each piece. Also, I recommend you get a teacher or at least read a book on piano technique to help you theoretically understand how to approach practicing. Gieseking's book in particular is quite good.
On top of this, I would recommend that along with these, you should play something you enjoy. It's hard to stick to an instrument if you spend all your time studying to improve technique and no time having fun.

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It really depends on what you want to learn. I'm classically trained, so I have been practicing scales, chords, arpeggios and Hanon since I was 5. Unfortunately, I can't play pop music or improvise well at all, despite terrific technique and wide repertoire. If you don't think that's a huge problem (and I don't, I LOVE playing classical) then practice scales in all 12 keys, do Hanon for 20 minutes every day and slowly learn classical pieces, and start with both hands, don't learn it one at a time.
If you want to learn pop music or jazz or blues though, your best bet is to listen, try and play, rewind, listen, try and play, rewind, listen, try and play over and over and over. I am serious. This is how kids learn to play jazz.
Hope that helped.
] here, I LOVE Clementi. Love love love.

sixth year classical and contemporary pianist here, just going to say some things i wish people had have said plainly to me.
1. learn to interpret the majors and minors (chords) across any scale. There's a music-theory to it that i won't explain right now.
2. try to learn to scale, thumb and cross pretty early
3. you'll probably want to start off exclusively in C, G, D, F
4. contrary to what everyone will tell you, reading music is NOT essential and neither is "starting off learning actual songs"
maybe more later

Reading music is not essential? Beg to differ homie.

You're best off purchasing a book that teaches beginner's piano.

Where should you start?
Middle C
oh you meant to learn?
Piano lessons.

pianos are very large, i do not like that
pianos are often painted black, i like that EVEN LESS
plus, music is supposed to be stored electronically, but its okay because thats also the Mind. you may continue


Reading music is not essential? Beg to differ homie.

i beg to differ with your begging to differ.
i said "not essential", not "not extraordinarily useful".

A harpist went to Lieh Tzu and said, "Lieh Tzu, I wish to play the harp so well that the birds themselves will join me in song."
Said Lieh Tzu to Random Chinese Guy #104, "Sit beneath the peach tree every day and play the harp."
Random Chinese Guy #104 did as Lieh Tzu said. Over the next few years, Random Chinese Guy #104 sat beneath the tree and let his fingers discover the notes of his harp.
By the end of the third year, the birds themselves landed upon his shoulders and sang with his music.
The story goes on to make a point, saying that some dude who went to music school tried to play for the birds, and they just flew away.
Hope that helps~

by the way, i absolutely agree with this.
f**k everyone who disagrees with it.


i beg to differ with your begging to differ.
i said "not essential", not "not extraordinarily useful".

I don't know a lot of people who learned Bach by ear, but I'll take your word for it.

Go back to when you were a small child and beg your parents to take piano lessons.

Go back to when you were a small child and beg your parents to take piano lessons.

That is, beg them to take YOU to piano lessons.


That is, beg them to take YOU to piano lessons.

we get it brohamskifu

Take lessons now, it's not too late. Even just find a friend who plays and learn from him. It's so much easier than teaching yourself.

Play guitar, its more manly. Piano is pretty cool too, I play both

OP here. Back. Glad to see my thread survived the night.
Thanks to everyone who replied, whether it was helpful, funny, or both. I will get to practicing soon, and I'm looking for a teacher this weekend. I have classes at the university, so hopefully, it will all work out.
Again, thanks for the advice.

you cant learn the piano without a fairly good grasp of musical theory, because it will hold you back later on. Buy some beginners piano books. like the kiddies ones. Its kinda lame but it will teach you up pretty quick

you cant learn the piano without a fairly good grasp of musical theory, because it will hold you back later on. Buy some beginners piano books. like the kiddies ones. Its kinda lame but it will teach you up pretty quick

When I got my first piano last year I started with Chopin. :/
And while I can play it (three of four pieces) just fine, you do indeed realize later on that you're missing something. Knowing what keys to hit like a anon is one thing, putting emotion into is something else entirely and that's what I've really been struggling with. Even when playing something as simple as Satie's Gymnopedie.
Still, all the popular contemporary songs are easy as f**k and fun to play, no matter how inexperienced you are.

Threadjack!
Played Trumpet during elementary school, got a new one recently from a church sale on the cheap, any suggestions on teaching myself to play again? Or would you guys suggest lessons for a trumpet?

you cant learn the piano without a fairly good grasp of musical theory, because it will hold you back later on. Buy some beginners piano books. like the kiddies ones. Its kinda lame but it will teach you up pretty quick

OP
I don't mind if I read the kiddie books. My really old player piano I'm using to practice came with a sh*tload of beginner material and I plan on getting more.

Threadjack!
Played Trumpet during elementary school, got a new one recently from a church sale on the cheap, any suggestions on teaching myself to play again? Or would you guys suggest lessons for a trumpet?

Dude, the trumpet doesn't really sound like the kind of instrument you can figure out on your own...
Unless you remember sufficiently about it from when you were a kid, but based on that, only you can answer whether you'll need lessons or not.
Also, fukken this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUij8FCg0z8


Dude, the trumpet doesn't really sound like the kind of instrument you can figure out on your own...
Unless you remember sufficiently about it from when you were a kid, but based on that, only you can answer whether you'll need lessons or not.
Also, fukken this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUij8FCg0z8

That guy is freaking awesome.

where do you live, OP? i'm a piano teacher!

A harpist went to Lieh Tzu and said, "Lieh Tzu, I wish to play the harp so well that the birds themselves will join me in song."
Said Lieh Tzu to Random Chinese Guy #104, "Sit beneath the peach tree every day and play the harp."
Random Chinese Guy #104 did as Lieh Tzu said. Over the next few years, Random Chinese Guy #104 sat beneath the tree and let his fingers discover the notes of his harp.
By the end of the third year, the birds themselves landed upon his shoulders and sang with his music.
The story goes on to make a point, saying that some dude who went to music school tried to play for the birds, and they just flew away.
Hope that helps~

pretty story, it's kind of true in my experience.
a way you can apply it to your situation is, rather than learning music by rote, play with the keyboard yourself, listen to the sounds that are coming out, play along with music, songs in the style that you want to play. try to find triads (three note chords) that sound like they fit the chords in the song, try to pick out the bass notes. i feel you'll learn a lot more about music like that. but it takes a lot of practice; you have to love it.
you should also learn basic music theory somewhere down the line if you actually want to work with other musicians and have a language to communicate in, though it's not necessary. i've been playing by ear since i was 5 but didn't actually learn music theory til high school.

I'm tempted to grab a keyboard down at goodwill and start practicing. I'd love to play jazzy/loungey music and maybe learn classical sh*t. Then again I'm also tempted to grab an organ they have down there, and a massive projection TV, and tons of furniture, goodwill is f**king tempting me into being a hoarder.

If it's your first attempt at learning a musical instrument, get a teacher. Despite what anyone else may say, if you teach yourself, you're likely to end up with pretty lame style and technique. If you want to play classical music, get a teacher. Jazz/blues can be self-taught reasonably well, although teacher is still useful.

If it's your first attempt at learning a musical instrument, get a teacher. Despite what anyone else may say, if you teach yourself, you're likely to end up with pretty lame style and technique. If you want to play classical music, get a teacher. Jazz/blues can be self-taught reasonably well, although teacher is still useful.

> if you teach yourself, you're likely to end up with pretty lame style and technique
f**k you. play from the heart


> if you teach yourself, you're likely to end up with pretty lame style and technique
f**k you. play from the heart

Try playing Beethoven or Bartok without good control of your hands.


> if you teach yourself, you're likely to end up with pretty lame style and technique
f**k you. play from the heart

Did you learn to drive from the heart? Did you learn to read and write from the heart?
No.
Having a teacher will mean you can play classical music well. If you just want to learn pop sh*t, it's not necessary, but if you want to play real piano repertoire, you need a teacher.


Did you learn to drive from the heart? Did you learn to read and write from the heart?
No.
Having a teacher will mean you can play classical music well. If you just want to learn pop sh*t, it's not necessary, but if you want to play real piano repertoire, you need a teacher.

birds fly away from this guy


birds fly away from this guy

The only thing you can actually "play from the heart" with right off is your voice: it's a completely natural instrument, and unique to you as a person. You express yourself with it daily, by using words, pitch, rhythm, intonation, cadences, etc, in any kind of conversation, and likewise, as you sing.
Any other type of instrument, like a piano, or a guitar, is, by it's definition, mechanical. They're machines that produce sounds by having a mallet strike a string to make in vibrate inside of a wooden body. Although it's your hand striking the key that activates the mechanism, it's still a machine. Which is why it's good to have somebody teach you how to get the kind of sound, how to express yourself the way you want to with an instrument, and the system that is music.
So f**k off with your bullsh*t.


> if you teach yourself, you're likely to end up with pretty lame style and technique
f**k you. play from the heart

lulz
Technique is incredibly important when you're playing the piano, there's loads of sh*t like staccato, trills, pizzicato etc that you would never be able to learn without a teacher.

I was classically trained until 12, stopped for almost 8 years, and came back with half the technical ability and ten times the creativity.
I find myself pining for the ability to do some of Chopin's harder stuff again, but I just don't have the patience to sit down and do f**king chords, scales, and arpeggios all day when I can write my own stuff. Sh*tty predicament.


lulz
Technique is incredibly important when you're playing the piano, there's loads of sh*t like staccato, trills, pizzicato etc that you would never be able to learn without a teacher.

>pizzicato
Oh god, did I facepalm.

I've been teaching myself piano for about a year and I can play the first two movements of Moonlight Sonata reasonably well (by my standards, which is probably pretty piss poor in reality) I started out with Alfred's adult piano book 1, finished it, and got bored with 2 after a few pages. I picked up the Hanon book and Czerny op.299 School of Velocity. But I think from what I've read I should be focusing on learning scales and stuff. Any good resources/books for that? Any other advice? I've been trying to improve my technique as much as possible before trying to learn anything new


lulz
Technique is incredibly important when you're playing the piano, there's loads of sh*t like staccato, trills, pizzicato etc that you would never be able to learn without a teacher.

I agree that technique is important, but just so you know, pizzicato is a stringed instrument (see: violin, viola, cello, bass) technique. Well, there technically IS pizzicato for piano, but you'd probably only use it in esoteric 20th century modernist compositions. It's most certainly at the bottom of the list in regards to important pianist techniques.

I've been teaching myself piano for about a year and I can play the first two movements of Moonlight Sonata reasonably well (by my standards, which is probably pretty piss poor in reality) I started out with Alfred's adult piano book 1, finished it, and got bored with 2 after a few pages. I picked up the Hanon book and Czerny op.299 School of Velocity. But I think from what I've read I should be focusing on learning scales and stuff. Any good resources/books for that? Any other advice? I've been trying to improve my technique as much as possible before trying to learn anything new

I've been teaching myself piano for about a year and I can play the first two movements of Moonlight Sonata reasonably well (by my standards, which is probably pretty piss poor in reality) I started out with Alfred's adult piano book 1, finished it, and got bored with 2 after a few pages. I picked up the Hanon book and Czerny op.299 School of Velocity. But I think from what I've read I should be focusing on learning scales and stuff. Any good resources/books for that? Any other advice? I've been trying to improve my technique as much as possible before trying to learn anything new

Also, what piano VST/applications do you recommend? A real piano isn't feasible for me at this point in time so I use a MIDI controller with reasonably realistic hammer action. All of the software pianos i've used though are pretty sub-par in quality and dynamics to a real piano. I've tried Pianoteq and Garrittan Steinway. Garritan sounds the best but has sh*tty overall feel. Pianoteq has decent feel but doesn't sound as good.

Sorry to interrupt your thread OP, but when you said the most manly instrument in the world, you meant a violin, right?


>pizzicato
Oh god, did I facepalm.

that just slipped in :(
hurp I play the violin too.

Sorry to interrupt your thread OP, but when you said the most manly instrument in the world, you meant a violin, right?

But violin isn't a percussion instrument, anon.


Also, what piano VST/applications do you recommend? A real piano isn't feasible for me at this point in time so I use a MIDI controller with reasonably realistic hammer action. All of the software pianos i've used though are pretty sub-par in quality and dynamics to a real piano. I've tried Pianoteq and Garrittan Steinway. Garritan sounds the best but has sh*tty overall feel. Pianoteq has decent feel but doesn't sound as good.

Also could someone with experience help me out with something? How do I play fortepiano? I know what it means but don't understand the actual technique since the volume of notes can't be controlled after the initial key stroke. I haven't been able to find anything about this online either


But violin isn't a percussion instrument, anon.

That looks a lot more tiring than playing a violin.


That looks a lot more tiring than playing a violin.

I'm too tired to play REAL manly instruments! BAWWWW

I've been teaching myself piano for about a year and I can play the first two movements of Moonlight Sonata reasonably well (by my standards, which is probably pretty piss poor in reality) I started out with Alfred's adult piano book 1, finished it, and got bored with 2 after a few pages. I picked up the Hanon book and Czerny op.299 School of Velocity. But I think from what I've read I should be focusing on learning scales and stuff. Any good resources/books for that? Any other advice? I've been trying to improve my technique as much as possible before trying to learn anything new

If you can, try getting some kind of theory book. Some of the books written by Robert Ottman are what most schools use in their curriculum. Some basic theory is important when you're trying to learn scales because it allows you to understand the relationship between notes better, and it explains in greater detail what you're hearing. Also, try to learn how to sight-sing in addition to theory (Ottman's Music for Sight-Singing is great for this), 'cause that will really help you out in identifying pitch, hearing intervals, and recognizing common chord progressions and time signatures. Also, you'll be able to sing like woah.
And when you're practicing, practice thoughtfully: listen to what you're doing, the kind of sound that you're producing, and think about the kind of sound that you want to get out of the instrument.
Other than that just listen to music!


Also could someone with experience help me out with something? How do I play fortepiano? I know what it means but don't understand the actual technique since the volume of notes can't be controlled after the initial key stroke. I haven't been able to find anything about this online either

FORTE = LOUD
PIANO = SOFT
PLAY ONE NOTE LOUD, AND THE NEXT NOTE SOFTLY.
DUM dum.

I've been teaching myself piano for about a year and I can play the first two movements of Moonlight Sonata reasonably well (by my standards, which is probably pretty piss poor in reality) I started out with Alfred's adult piano book 1, finished it, and got bored with 2 after a few pages. I picked up the Hanon book and Czerny op.299 School of Velocity. But I think from what I've read I should be focusing on learning scales and stuff. Any good resources/books for that? Any other advice? I've been trying to improve my technique as much as possible before trying to learn anything new

Scales are really easy to learn, the hard part is figuring out what fingerings are comfortable for you. Start with Cmaj, then go up a fourth when you're done to Fmaj, then Bbmaj etc etc until you've finished all 12.


FORTE = LOUD
PIANO = SOFT
PLAY ONE NOTE LOUD, AND THE NEXT NOTE SOFTLY.
DUM dum.

Well if that's what it means (play one loud one soft loud soft loud soft etc) then yes it's simple, but having a bit of experience playing wind instruments if i recall correctly it was changing the volume of the note while still playing it. Which isn't possible on a piano


Also, what piano VST/applications do you recommend? A real piano isn't feasible for me at this point in time so I use a MIDI controller with reasonably realistic hammer action. All of the software pianos i've used though are pretty sub-par in quality and dynamics to a real piano. I've tried Pianoteq and Garrittan Steinway. Garritan sounds the best but has sh*tty overall feel. Pianoteq has decent feel but doesn't sound as good.

Sorry, can't help you there, bro. A midi-controller isn't really good for learning how to play the piano, for exactly those reasons. Also, the feel of a real piano is much different. The best you can do is see if there's a Rec Center or some bullsh*t around you that might have a piano that you can play on. Other than that, a decent keyboard is your best bet. The Casio Privia PXs are real nice, and if you're lucky you can find one for cheap on eBay or craigslist or something.


Well if that's what it means (play one loud one soft loud soft loud soft etc) then yes it's simple, but having a bit of experience playing wind instruments if i recall correctly it was changing the volume of the note while still playing it. Which isn't possible on a piano

>changing the volume of the note while still playing it
NAW, IT'S FOR TWO SEPARATE NOTES, NOT ONE NOTE.

One man gets nothing but discord out of a piano, another gets harmony. No one claims the piano is at fault. Life is about the same. The discord is there, and the harmony is there. Study to play it correctly, and it will give forth the beauty; play it falsely, and it will give forth the ugliness. Life is not at fault.


>changing the volume of the note while still playing it
NAW, IT'S FOR TWO SEPARATE NOTES, NOT ONE NOTE.

You're a f**king joke. There is a SINGLE symbol called a fortepiano, looks like "Fp", on a single note or chord. It's more or less the same thing as a sforzando, but requires that the note become immediately soft after the forte.
Seriously, don't talk if you don't know sh*t about music.


Sorry, can't help you there, bro. A midi-controller isn't really good for learning how to play the piano, for exactly those reasons. Also, the feel of a real piano is much different. The best you can do is see if there's a Rec Center or some bullsh*t around you that might have a piano that you can play on. Other than that, a decent keyboard is your best bet. The Casio Privia PXs are real nice, and if you're lucky you can find one for cheap on eBay or craigslist or something.

Yeah I'm getting sick of constantly having to adjust my velocity/tone settings... I'll take a look at the Casio.

Don't know if this's been posted afore:
http://www.pianofundamentals.com/book

Seriously get a teacher.

Don't know if this's been posted afore:
http://www.pianofundamentals.com/book

That's pretty cool. There's some good sh*t in there. That part about listening to a piece before you play it is pretty interesting, and makes sense. I feel as if being creative with a piece comes after really "getting" it, where you can actually think about what you want to do with it. I don't think hearing something before hand is necessary, but it definitely helps.

Seriously get a teacher.

Why you sage bro-ham?

what i always have been wondering, isnt it too late to get really into playing an instrument at such an age, and getting relly good.

what i always have been wondering, isnt it too late to get really into playing an instrument at such an age, and getting relly good.

answerthisx

what i always have been wondering, isnt it too late to get really into playing an instrument at such an age, and getting relly good.

If your only goal is to "get really good" then it's not worth it in the first place. If you decide to start playing at any age because it's a fun hobby and you can enjoy it, what does it matter if you get "really good" at it?

what i always have been wondering, isnt it too late to get really into playing an instrument at such an age, and getting relly good.

it's rare to get good when one starts as an adult probably because adults have too much other stuff to do and get impatient and bored and don't practice. and plus their brains aren't growing nearly as fast as children.
i rarely take adult students. they usually quit after a few weeks cause they never practice. i rarely get any actual lovers of music either. they just like the idea of learning to play an instrument.
but if you actually love the feelings that rhythms and chord tensions in music give you, i think you might have a chance.
have faith in the your brain's plasticity. and learn to love practicing.

Sorry to interrupt your thread OP, but when you said the most manly instrument in the world, you meant a violin, right?

OP is back.
Violin is also incredibly manly. I'd say the piano and violin are pretty much on the same masculine tier as each other.
That, and bass. Do we agree?
where do you live, OP? i'm a piano teacher!

I live in two different areas at the moment. Currently finishing my move between my original childhood home in Brandon, Florida and moving up to Ocala, near Gainsville.

John Thompson book 1

John Thompson book 1

OP again.
Thanks. Looking into it now. I'm surprised at the turn-out on this thread.
Thanks again, everyone. Discuss piano and sh*t. I'm sure I'm not the only one interested.

Piano is a ni**er instrument


Try playing Beethoven or Bartok without good control of your hands.

not impossible if you teach yourself.
protip: teaching yourself does not result in less skill


not impossible if you teach yourself.
protip: teaching yourself does not result in less skill

> ..does not result in less skill
does not necessarily result in less skill, i mean

Piano is a ni**er instrument

OP here
Someone is obviously jealous.
jealous


OP here
Someone is obviously jealous.
jealous

Yes, even you can see that.

So, anons, I've finally moved to a peaceful place. Free of distractions. Now, I wish to learn to play the piano, the most manly instrument in the world.
Question is: Where should I start?
I noticed a lot of anons are piano players. Care to give advice to an aspiring player? Such as, what are some basic chords I should learn and some basic music theory? Links are the sh*t, man.
Pic related. It's the instrument in its natural habitat

everyone knows that the double-guitar is the manliest instrument ever. for proof of this, simply imagine a girl playing one and EXAMINE YOUR FEELINGS.


everyone knows that the double-guitar is the manliest instrument ever. for proof of this, simply imagine a girl playing one and EXAMINE YOUR FEELINGS.

chick from Boris(experimental Metal band) plays one from time to time if i'm not mistaken


everyone knows that the double-guitar is the manliest instrument ever. for proof of this, simply imagine a girl playing one and EXAMINE YOUR FEELINGS.

Hmm... you have a point.
Perhaps we should manifest a hierarchy of musical instruments.
Unless, of course, one has already been made and can be provided.


Hmm... you have a point.
Perhaps we should manifest a hierarchy of musical instruments.
Unless, of course, one has already been made and can be provided.

If we're gonna do that then I nominate every single brass instrument for at least mid-high tier.

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